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Is this a Corn Snake?

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Is this a Corn Snake?

I bought him for $20 from a guy on craigslist.com, he said it was a ghost corn, I'm sure it's not but he's still beautiful. I went to Petco and they said it wasn't even a Corn Snake. I found a site with Corns that looked very similar but I though I would ask on here as well.










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Re: Is this a Corn Snake?

I really wish the pictures were bigger, make sure you don't grab the link for the thumbnails when you post!
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Re: Is this a Corn Snake?

I fixed the pics. I want to say it is a garter snake, but the pictures aren't the clearest I have seen.
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Re: Is this a Corn Snake?

Some clearer pictures would help but what I can make of the head patten and striping is typical of a striped morph in corn snakes. Garters tend to have cleaner more contrasting stripes and solid head color. You could have a Ghost stripe based off color and pattern. Though without some better pictures it's hard to say.
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Re: Is this a Corn Snake?

It's no garter snake. If you ask me, it looks like a juvenile rat snake of some sort, but I'm not sure which species. The size of the head in relation to the body definitely makes me think juvenile though. It *could* be a corn, but I don't know much about color morphs. It also bears some resemblance to a trans-pecos rat snake, Bogertophis subocularis, or a great plains rat snake, Elaphe emoryi / Pantherophis emoryi. Also known as Emory's rat snake, they were once considered a subspecies of the corn snake, and still are by some.

It may not even be a rat snake. The shape of the body makes me question it. House snakes come to mind, genus Lamprophis. They're native to Africa, but are available as pets. I don't know much about them though, but its another possibility.

With that pattern, it sure looks like a possible color morph. That, coupled with the relative blurriness of the photos make it hard to get a proper ID. If you can manage to get some clear shots, that will help. I wouldn't take PetCo's word on anything though, even if they may possibly accidentally be right this time.
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Re: Is this a Corn Snake?



Are these any better? I have a few more if they are needed. I can't figure out how else to get pics on here.

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Re: Is this a Corn Snake?

Well from body shape and color I would count out the house snake as a option as they have broder striping when it's present at all. Also if I'm corret to date I don't beleave that a striped form of Pantherophis emoryi without P. guttaus infulance is geneticly possible. Though the snake could be an intergrade from the two.

With this snake being of Anthistic genetics it would be hard to make the call as it lacks the red and brown tones to determin that it's of Pantherophis emoryi bloodline. I would say I'm 95% sure this is a Ghost striped corn, based off the baned eye pattern and V head marking. Also as can be seen in the first picture the typical 4 line stripe 2 dorsal and one thin line on the flanks. Typical of a striped x striped pairing and not a montly x stripe.

Heres a photo of my Amel striped corn for comparison.

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Re: Is this a Corn Snake?

Your new pictures look clearer, but are too small.

This is a photo I found of a juvenile corn snake though. If you look at the markings on the head, it's a similar pattern to yours, and also sports some stripage down the neck, though it fades and becomes saddles. For this reason, I still think yours could be a corn snake, but as stated, I don't know much about morphs.

Oh yeah, here's the photo:
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Re: Is this a Corn Snake?

Judging from the head markings it is a very young cornsnake. The striping is consistent with some of the morphs I have seen.
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Re: Is this a Corn Snake?

Looks like a striped gopher-corn hybrid I have:

My Striped Gophercorn

 


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