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    New veiled Chameleon

    Hello I just got a Veiled Chameleon and I would like to know how do I keep the cage at the right temp and his name is Homer and that's if it's a boy.






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    Re: Sneezy Chameleon

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    hello i just got a veiled chameleon and i would like to know how do i keep the cage at the right temp and his name is homer and thats if its a boy
    Hi there, welcome to the site! Here is the sites caresheet for the veiled chameleon, I don't own one but there are members who do. It would be a good idea to start a new thread in the Chameleon section of the forum, this will show that it is a new thread and a new member asking for help! Good luck
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    Re: New veiled Chameleon

    First we need to know EXACTLY what sort of cage you are housing it in.
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    Re: New veiled Chameleon

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    hello i just got a veiled chameleon and i would like to know how do i keep the cage at the right temp and his name is homer and thats if its a boy
    What type of cage are you keeping it in? If it is a screened cage, which it should be, it is difficult to keep temps right throughout the enclosure. You really need to keep them in a room that maintains fairly warm temps. You need to experiment with wattages on bulbs and whatnot to find out what can get your basking temps right along with your ambient temps. I keep my chameleons in my reptile room that stays between 75 and 80 degrees. That coupled with a 65w bulb for basking and a UVB bulb it maintains close to ideal temps. You just have to experiment with perches and branches to get the distances from the bulb correct to maintain the right temps. Twice daily mistings keep humidity up as well as having live plants in the enclosure. Post some pictures so that we can get an idea of what you are working with.

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    Re: New veiled Chameleon

    When I had my veiled, I kept him in a screened enclosure that was kept in a small room with no AC. They can develop respiratory issues if kept in a glass tank. I agree with everyone else on the lights and misting. I also kept a slow drip system where water would slowly drip on some plastic leaves that I had in there for drinking and increased moisture.
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    Re: New veiled Chameleon

    When I had baby veileds this was the info that I provided to the new owners. Hopefully it will help you with your new veiled or panther. I have some additional information at the bottom for the female chameleon which should be handled differently.

    You will need a starter cage to begin with. I'd get a cage no bigger than 30 high at the max to start with. Too big he will not be able to find his food. Even a little smaller would be good. lllreptiles has about the best cages for the money and get something small enough that it will fit in your car so you can use it for travel......vet visits and so forth when he moves up to a big boy cage (48 inches high) or a free range tree. http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...reptile-cages/

    You need a Reptisun 5.0 tube light. You can see a pic of it here: It's the best UV bulb.
    http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...n-50-uvb-bulb/

    You probably will not need a basking light right at first if he's young.....under 4 months old. He'll be so young he'll only need to bask at about 80 to 82 until 4 or 5 months old. Luie (my adult male veiled) bask at 88 or 89 for an adult panther 85. You can use a household bulb and you'll have to keep testing the temps. (25 to 40 watt or so)

    Your lights need to be across the top of the cage and you need allot of vines and branches 8 inches or so down from the top.....under the lights. Veileds love to bask and you don't want him to get a burn or rub his veiled on the screen or he'll wear the top off.

    You can buy the Little Dripper or you can make a homemade dripper. Take a plastic cup or bowl and poke a couple of very small holes in the bottom. As adults you can use a plastic milk jug. Fill it with warm water and make sure it drips very slowly over a vine with leaves so your little guy can drink from the leaves. Also mist for a pretty long time. It takes awhile for them to start drinking. I would mist 3 or 4 times a day for 3 minutes or so at first. Just make sure the cage dries out real good between each misting. As adults I mist twice a day for about 5 minutes and mine drink water from a dropper. You will need drainage for your cage. Maybe some holes in the bottom with a bucket or pan sitting under it to catch the water.

    Branches from outside are ok from most trees. Clean them well and some member bake them in the oven. Cut the branch the size you need and thumb tacks can be use on each end to hold the branches up. You can also get vines and branches here:
    http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...arium-accents/

    You will need live plants for your cage to help keep up the humidity. I really like the Pothos it seems to hold the water for a long time and also does quite well inside. The Ficus and Schefflera also do great indoors. The Hibiscus is a favorite of the veileds but needs allot of light so your need to use hibiscus outside or have a couple to rotate from inside to outside for sun. Your plants will need to be washed and rinsed well and replanted before you use them. Use organic soil and buy large river rocks to cover the soil so your cham will not be able to get to the soil. Make sure the rocks are very large so the cham cannot eat the rocks.

    You really need the 5.0 UVB bulb like the one in the link above. It has to be the tube style. A must to keep you guy from having MBD. If it's fairly warm in your house at 2 to 3 months old you will not need a basking bulb, when older or if your house is cold you might need one. Measuring the heat is very important. I have a temp. gun. Very important to know their temps. They can fry in a very short time in the heat. At night he needs to be dark, no light, and cool so he can rest. He should be 10 degrees cooler at night than in the daytime but not below 65........70 as a baby.

    The feeders have to be "lightly" dusted with 3 kinds of supplements. Plain calcium (no d3) at just about every feeding...... if you skip one or two days a month that's ok. Calcium with d3 twice a month and a multi. vit. once a month. In this link I use the 1st, 3rd and 5th one.http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog/...cage-cleaners/

    You need to gut load the feeders with collard greens they are excellent. You can also use kale, carrots, butternut squash apple and orange. You can also buy a premixed dry gut load. My vet makes one that I use.

    A female will probably never need a basking light. I use a double fixture with one UVB bulb and one regular fluorescent bulb and that works perfect. As a baby her basking temps should be at 80. Being female 80 or 81 her entire life unless you breed then you could up it a bit...83 or 84......you'll still want a small clutch. If your house is really cold you might need a 15 or 25 watt basking bulb for a female.

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    Re: New veiled Chameleon

    Quote Originally Posted by jannb View Post
    When I had baby veileds this was the info that I provided to the new owners. Hopefully it will help you with your new veiled or panther. I have some additional information at the bottom for the female chameleon which should be handled differently.

    You will need a starter cage to begin with. I'd get a cage no bigger than 30 high at the max to start with. Too big he will not be able to find his food. Even a little smaller would be good. lllreptiles has about the best cages for the money and get something small enough that it will fit in your car so you can use it for travel......vet visits and so forth when he moves up to a big boy cage (48 inches high) or a free range tree. Screen Reptile Cages

    You need a Reptisun 5.0 tube light. You can see a pic of it here: It's the best UV bulb.
    Zoo Med 18" Repti Sun 5.0 UVB bulb

    You probably will not need a basking light right at first if he's young.....under 4 months old. He'll be so young he'll only need to bask at about 80 to 82 until 4 or 5 months old. Luie (my adult male veiled) bask at 88 or 89 for an adult panther 85. You can use a household bulb and you'll have to keep testing the temps. (25 to 40 watt or so)

    Your lights need to be across the top of the cage and you need allot of vines and branches 8 inches or so down from the top.....under the lights. Veileds love to bask and you don't want him to get a burn or rub his veiled on the screen or he'll wear the top off.

    You can buy the Little Dripper or you can make a homemade dripper. Take a plastic cup or bowl and poke a couple of very small holes in the bottom. As adults you can use a plastic milk jug. Fill it with warm water and make sure it drips very slowly over a vine with leaves so your little guy can drink from the leaves. Also mist for a pretty long time. It takes awhile for them to start drinking. I would mist 3 or 4 times a day for 3 minutes or so at first. Just make sure the cage dries out real good between each misting. As adults I mist twice a day for about 5 minutes and mine drink water from a dropper. You will need drainage for your cage. Maybe some holes in the bottom with a bucket or pan sitting under it to catch the water.

    Branches from outside are ok from most trees. Clean them well and some member bake them in the oven. Cut the branch the size you need and thumb tacks can be use on each end to hold the branches up. You can also get vines and branches here:
    Terrarium Plants, Vines & Terrarium Accents

    You will need live plants for your cage to help keep up the humidity. I really like the Pothos it seems to hold the water for a long time and also does quite well inside. The Ficus and Schefflera also do great indoors. The Hibiscus is a favorite of the veileds but needs allot of light so your need to use hibiscus outside or have a couple to rotate from inside to outside for sun. Your plants will need to be washed and rinsed well and replanted before you use them. Use organic soil and buy large river rocks to cover the soil so your cham will not be able to get to the soil. Make sure the rocks are very large so the cham cannot eat the rocks.

    You really need the 5.0 UVB bulb like the one in the link above. It has to be the tube style. A must to keep you guy from having MBD. If it's fairly warm in your house at 2 to 3 months old you will not need a basking bulb, when older or if your house is cold you might need one. Measuring the heat is very important. I have a temp. gun. Very important to know their temps. They can fry in a very short time in the heat. At night he needs to be dark, no light, and cool so he can rest. He should be 10 degrees cooler at night than in the daytime but not below 65........70 as a baby.

    The feeders have to be "lightly" dusted with 3 kinds of supplements. Plain calcium (no d3) at just about every feeding...... if you skip one or two days a month that's ok. Calcium with d3 twice a month and a multi. vit. once a month. In this link I use the 1st, 3rd and 5th one.Vitamins, Medicines & Cage Cleaners

    You need to gut load the feeders with collard greens they are excellent. You can also use kale, carrots, butternut squash apple and orange. You can also buy a premixed dry gut load. My vet makes one that I use.

    A female will probably never need a basking light. I use a double fixture with one UVB bulb and one regular fluorescent bulb and that works perfect. As a baby her basking temps should be at 80. Being female 80 or 81 her entire life unless you breed then you could up it a bit...83 or 84......you'll still want a small clutch. If your house is really cold you might need a 15 or 25 watt basking bulb for a female.
    Good info! But if I can make a little tweak to the data, Reptiles of any age need a basking spot along with a proper bulb to provide it.

    Ambient air temperature does not equal basking temperature! The only way that I can describe the difference is to have someone stand out in the sun and then have them stand in the shade.

    The air temperature will be equal whether or not you are in the sun or in the shade.
    But with the radiation of the sun, The temps are multiplied.

    All reptiles depend on their ability to move into the rays of the sun to warm themselves. They also depend on shade to cool down!

    Unlike a heat rock, Reptiles will move away from an overhead basking light when they get too warm.
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    Re: New veiled Chameleon

    Quote Originally Posted by Og_ View Post
    Good info! But if I can make a little tweak to the data, Reptiles of any age need a basking spot along with a proper bulb to provide it.

    Ambient air temperature does not equal basking temperature! The only way that I can describe the difference is to have someone stand out in the sun and then have them stand in the shade.

    The air temperature will be equal whether or not you are in the sun or in the shade.
    But with the radiation of the sun, The temps are multiplied.

    All reptiles depend on their ability to move into the rays of the sun to warm themselves. They also depend on shade to cool down!

    Unlike a heat rock, Reptiles will move away from an overhead basking light when they get too warm.
    My daughter and I have raised chameleons for over 6 years and never used a basking light with young chameleons 4 months and under nor on females ever. We use the duel light fixture with the UVB blub in one side and a regular florescent bulb in the other side and this keeps them right around 80 or 81 (we live in FL). This 80 temp is at the top of the enclosure and it is mid 70's in the middle and low 70's on the bottom. This lower temps and feeding less keeps the females from laying a clutch or if they do ever lay a clutch is a very small clutch. As long as they have close to a 10 degree drop in temps at night you will be fine. We got this information form Lynda Horgan who has been raising chameleons for over 20 years and has both males and female live past the age of seven years.

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    Re: New veiled Chameleon

    I guess the term "Basking spot" can be misunderstood.

    My definition of it means an that an animal has a central area where they can warm up to their optimal temperatures to digest there food.
    The rest of the enclosure should areas to cool down but NOT get COLD!
    Greg

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