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    For the past two days, I've noticed some black marks on my Bearded Dragon's belly. They look like this ()()()(), he usually has tiny black flecks on his belly that I was told are his natural coloration, and I believe them because they are very difficult to see. But these are quite prominent and therefore worrisome.
    I read that this can mean any number of things, but they are called stress marks. it means that he is either unhappy or unhealthy. His temp and light have remained constant, so I don't see how he could be unhealthy, I give him about 20 crickets a day that are gut loaded and I mist him daily as well. The only new thing about it is, I took out a big wooden root that I bought from Petsmart to put in his cage because crickets were hiding in it. Please help me, I don't want my beardy to be hurt.

    Oh yeah, and his markings went away when I held him yesterday. They turned back to their normal flecks.






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    Re: Black Marks on Beardie's Belly

    Can you tell us more about his tank.
    What exactly are the temps, what is the lighting schedule, does he have cage mates, do you have cats/kids/dogs/free roaming baboons/neighbors who might have given him a scare? What is the age/brand/strength of his UVB light?

    The more you give us to go on the more likely we can help you find the cause.
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    Re: Black Marks on Beardie's Belly

    I have two lights a UVA and a UVA/UVB one... I forgot what type they are but I remember that they are .3 UVB and .7 UVA. I have a dog that comes in my room with me but she doesn't ever see Elmo, so I don't know. As for the baboons, they could be a problem but he doesn't seem to mind them when they are around. The lighting schedule is 8:45 AM to 9:45 PM. No cage mates and the thermometer is too crappy to give an accurate reading. It does say that it is about 95 on the hot end though.

    I have a 40 gallon breeder with a two month old beardy. And every time I hold him his markings start to go away, but they don't seem to leave completley.

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    Re: Black Marks on Beardie's Belly

    I forgot what type they are but I remember that they are .3 UVB and .7 UVA.
    You need to determine which is which/ A 3. UVB is not enough.

    You need a good thermometer and to get the temps up! They need a basking spot of 105-110.

    Had to go back and check on that baboon comment!
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    Re: Black Marks on Beardie's Belly

    Well I am going to give everybody rope to hang me because I totally disagree about the 'stress' marks. I have been closely observing my dragons color since I read on this forum about 'stress' circles.

    My dragons changes color anywhere, anytime. They change between black, orange and white in no specific order and in no specific time frame. The most obvious thing that proofs that it is not stress marks is the fact that my dragons are mostly black while they are hunting their food. I am specifically referring to their beards and stomach lines - "circles". My common sense tells me that they eat when they are hot and the black mostly refer to their temperature. When they sit outside on their rocks and bask in the sun, then they are mostly black. After a while they will move to the shade and their color changes to more orange and/or white.

    Therefore my conclusion on 'stress' circles is that its got nothing to do with stress, it is related to body temperature. Yes, they do change color depending on their moods as well but it is not guaranteed. For instance, my 2 male dragons end up being in sight of one another, color does not change, they stay black or orange or white. Believe me they HATE one another and kill is the only thing on their minds when they get into contact with one another by accident.

    So my question to you Lunarego would be; have you observed him for a full day inside his enclosure? Does he stay black the whole day long? The reason why he change color when you take him out is because your room is not nearly as hot as his enclosure. I have never seen a cold black dragon. Plus, you say that you mist him, his enclosure must be cork dry, they battle to breath when it is humid. Make sure you have a bowl of water that is big enough for him to clime into and soak when he feels like it,
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    Re: Black Marks on Beardie's Belly

    Here is Sky, he just basked under his light and moved away towards his food. It was about an hour after he woke up. He ate 9 super worms seconds after I took the photos. Notice the black and orange. Sorry about the photos, I didnt open the glass.





    He is not stressed, he is hot and hungry.
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    Re: Black Marks on Beardie's Belly

    I think that you are misunderstanding the term "stress". A stress is anything that is out of the normal resting situation of the body. Hunger is a stress, aggression is a stress, desiring to breed is a stress. Needing to change temperature is a stress.
    Dragons don't change color for just no reason. Each of their color changes is significant to them whether we understand it or not.
    For instance, they will darken their colors to enable themselves to get warmer. Dark colors absorb heat better than light coloration. To cool off they will lighten.

    When we say stress circles it doesn't necessarily mean that the dragon is afraid.
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    Re: Black Marks on Beardie's Belly

    In other words, when you do see the 'stress' circles you dont really have anything to stress about because it is normal. 'It is their way of expressing themselves?'

    When ever somebody mentions stress circles everybody immediately assumes that something is definitely wrong. New people to dragons sees 'stress' circles as something bad.

    PS: I just want to correct my previous statement of "I have never seen a black - cold dragon" - that completely contradicts my statement of "They change color anywhere - anytime". It kept me awake all night.
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