We're more than just a website...
Reptile Forums - HC Network
   ... we're a community.


Everything Above Disappears When You log In Or Register!

Reptile Forums - Registration Is Free
Registration is free - Sign Up Now

Caresheets    Articles    Reviews    Books Reptile Books - Literature  

Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

This is what our member has to say: Ive had my male royal python for 2 yrs now having purchased him when he was 18 months.I only ever wanted the one snake ...


»   Reptile Forums - The HC Network > Reptile Forums > Snakes > Pythons > Ball Pythons
  »

Cruel to keep a python a virgin?



This thread is currently here for archival purposes only. As a result of this thread being inactive for over 90 days, it is no longer accepting posts.
Please start a new thread if you seek additional information regarding this topic.


 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
12-31-2007, 08:32 AM
rastel's Avatar
rastel
Junior Member
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 2
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

Ive had my male royal python for 2 yrs now having purchased him when he was 18 months.I only ever wanted the one snake and I love him to bits.I like to keep an even balance of a short daily handling,time in vivarium,and 5 or 6 hrs a day of free time doing as he pleases with the run of my bedroom.Im not a fan of any animal being constantly caged.Although as I have said Ive never desired to keep another snake, the thing that is recently bugging my conscience is will his life be a sad one if he never gets together with a female.Id like very much for your opinions.many thanks.

  #2  
 I helped move the meter!   12-31-2007, 09:07 AM
venus's Avatar
venus
HCD Administrator
Online
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 9,976
Blog Entries: 3
Thanks: 5
Thanked 102 Times in 101 Posts
Images: 38
Re: Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

Welcome to herpcenter. He will be just fine being alone during his lifetime.
__________________
MARSHA
A man without a woman is a bachelor, A woman without a man is a genius!.

We have enough youth, how about a fountain of smart!

  #3  
12-31-2007, 10:12 AM
Merlin's Avatar
Merlin
Administrator
Online
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Oklahoma City, Ok.
Posts: 11,545
Thanks: 9
Thanked 187 Times in 184 Posts
Re: Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

Snakes do not need a companion and he will be just fine solo!
__________________
Merlin,
What's Life Without A Little Magic!

  #4  
 I helped move the meter!   12-31-2007, 10:44 AM
schlegelbagel's Avatar
schlegelbagel
Moderator & Frog Lover
Offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Abingdon, Maryland
Posts: 4,719
Blog Entries: 55
Thanks: 11
Thanked 177 Times in 177 Posts
Images: 13
Re: Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

welcome
__________________
My name is Liz
Do what's best for the animal, not what's best for you.

  #5  
 I helped move the meter!   12-31-2007, 11:07 AM
Moshpitrockchick's Avatar
Moshpitrockchick
Moderator
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Spokane Washington
Posts: 5,552
Blog Entries: 39
Thanks: 1
Thanked 43 Times in 42 Posts
Images: 43
Re: Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

Snakes are solitary, they don't get pleasure from sex like humans do, they only do it because they have to for the survival of the species. He'll get along just fine without it.
__________________
Those who say it can't be done should get out of the way of those who are doing it.

~*~Lacey~*~


My Photos

  #6  
 I helped move the meter!   12-31-2007, 12:56 PM
nicole's Avatar
nicole
home of the unwanted
Offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,845
Blog Entries: 6
Thanks: 7
Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
Images: 101
Re: Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

I will have to second everyones opinion,, they are solitary creatures and only mate to reproduce,, they have no emotional ties behind it like humans do.

I will tell you a little story of my Wing and Prayer,,, they are rescue red tail boas. The other person I got them from insisted on the fact that they could not be seperated because the "loved" each other (ridiculuos). Prayer had many many bite wounds on her, when they came in.... Wing was biting her every time she annoyed him. Many many dollars later at the vet to heal her wounds,, and his,, they are seperated,, eating just fine and have put on a lot of weight. They had no need for each other,
Your snake will be just fine all by himself.
__________________




I have sucker tattood on my forehead

  #7  
 I helped move the meter!   01-01-2008, 05:29 AM
BlackJack's Avatar
BlackJack
Moderator
Offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 2,733
Thanks: 0
Thanked 23 Times in 23 Posts
Re: Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

I can't say whether or not snakes get pleasure from copulation. It is, however, a common inclination for people to project human emotion and needs onto their animals.
There is nothing "natural" about keeping any animal in captivity. But it sounds like your male BP has a really good life. Do you think he'd want to trade all the attention he gets now if you have to take care of another snake?
Things to think about:
Breeding snakes requires a lot of time and planning: they should be kept separate except for breeding attempts: otherwise they will stress each other out (see Nicole's story) That means you need two separate terrariums; heating units, lamps etc. Twice the work, expense, etc. for a copulation attempt once or twice a year.
The other problem is the safety: if you introduce a female that you are not familiar with, she could infest your male with external and/or internal parasites.
If you keep the female, you have to make sure she has adequate weight and is healthy enough to breed. What to do with the eggs? Incubator; then baby racks, then people coming to your house to buy babies...?
If you had said that you are passionate about the idea of breeding and really want to do the research to do it well, our replies may have sounded different. But you said that you really don't want another snake. My advice: keep giving your BP the benefit of your undivided care and attention. It's not cruel.
(Also there's no guarantee that he'd "get any" in the wild either. Some males in the wild don't live to breeding age and the ones that do have to be tough enough and good enough to get accepted by a female.)
__________________
Andrea

  #8  
01-03-2008, 09:48 PM
Skeletor's Avatar
Skeletor
Elite Member
Offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bloomington, Indiana
Posts: 134
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Images: 4
Re: Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

I agree, your python will be fine. I actually was just talking to my wife the other day about humans and apes are the only two species that have sex for pleasure, and thats, actually, one of the many reasons we are compared to apes.
__________________
I tried to get rich, but I just ended up with more pets.

1.0.0 Boxer Mix Canine (Admiral)
1.0.0 Ball Python (Bam Bam)
0.0.1 Cali King Snake (Beatlejuice)
0.1.0 Tabby Feline (Nina)
0.1.0 Feeder Mouse (Lucky)


Jer

  #9  
 I helped move the meter!   01-03-2008, 10:09 PM
Moshpitrockchick's Avatar
Moshpitrockchick
Moderator
Offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Spokane Washington
Posts: 5,552
Blog Entries: 39
Thanks: 1
Thanked 43 Times in 42 Posts
Images: 43
Re: Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

*cough* Dolphins do it for fun too *cough*
__________________
Those who say it can't be done should get out of the way of those who are doing it.

~*~Lacey~*~


My Photos

  #10  
 I helped move the meter!   01-04-2008, 01:51 AM
nicole's Avatar
nicole
home of the unwanted
Offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Washington
Posts: 1,845
Blog Entries: 6
Thanks: 7
Thanked 24 Times in 24 Posts
Images: 101
Re: Cruel to keep a python a virgin?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Moshpitrockchick View Post
*cough* Dolphins do it for fun too *cough*
Really??????
__________________




I have sucker tattood on my forehead

 


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Ball Python Caresheet Rich Ball Pythons 1 09-01-2007 05:09 PM
Can a python bite off more than it can chew? Miss_Unique Pythons *General* 16 09-23-2006 03:15 PM
My new Blood Python Rob Olivier Herp Photos 10 01-01-2005 02:38 PM

Thread Tools


Herp Center Topsites
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:19 PM.


Direct Navigation
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263

Reptile Forums - The HC Network - CH - Staff - Archive - Top