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This is what our member has to say: Ok several things. I purchased my first ball python last week. I got him home, set up his cage, and left him alone for a ...


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12-18-2007, 09:00 PM
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Re: Confused snake or confused owner?

Ok several things.
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I purchased my first ball python last week. I got him home, set up his cage, and left him alone for a day.
You should give a new snake at least a week to settle in.
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When an animal does not display behavior common to the species, to me thats a red flag.
The snake not constricting is NOT a sign of problematic behavior. Many snakes do not constrict pinkies or fuzzies, even if they are alive! The snake seems to know that they are harmless and I have seen snakes in the wild swallow pinkies alive! I have also seen snakes swallowing frogs while still alive. Your snake is fully capable of constricting should the need be there.

Freezing has nothing to do with vitamin D. What you are thinking of is thamine. Vitamine B. Freezing vegetables will destroy Thiamin over a period of time. There are countless generations of snakes that have been fed exclusively on frozen. In fact most of the reptiles housed in zoos are on a frozen diet.
There is no reason to switch a snake that is eating frozen to live prey. You will be backpedaling from what you need to do. Many snakes have been severely injured and even killed by what was intended to be their dinner!
Your temps do indeed need to come up. Aim for a basking spot of about 90-95 degrees. Your humidity can fluctuate. It does in the wild. There are dry periods and wet periods. 100% humidity is too high. In fact if you maintained 100% humidity for any length of time you would have a wonderful garden of mold, fungus and other nasties! You do want to raise it when the snake is in shed.
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The hoppers are a bit bigger than the fuzzies, approximately 1.5 times as large as the snakes head.
The rule is 1 to 1 1/2 times the diameter of the snake's BODY at the widest part, not the head.
It is not uncommon for a snake that is being fed prey that is on the small size to swallow it backwards,. I have even seen them swallow it sideways!
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its more entertaining for owner and snake when the snake constricts its prey. Perhaps all this captive breeding has breed the soul out of the snake. When I do start breeding ball pythons, I will probably want to introduce wild stock into the gene pool so theres no unpleasent mutations likely to show up.
To be honest the entertainment value lies totally in the realm of the keeper. The snake doesn't care one way or another. All it is concerned with is food! In other words you would be risking the snake's safety for YOUR amusement. And you may be surprised to know tha the vast majority of Ball python hatchlings available are NOT captive BRED but captive HATCHED. These babies were hatched from eggs taken from wild stock.
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Re: Confused snake or confused owner?

you should only feed live if he wont eat f/t and he can easily take a full grown mouse after like the 5th feeding. keep offering and if you like live feeding dont feed bigger then a rat pup just give him more my little man ate 2 rat pups per feeding now he eats a small med rat f/t if he wont eat the f/t then I get 3 rat pups .and he is smarter then you think would you run around the block if you could drive he is no different he realizes he dosent have to if you are affraid of and want him to be healthy feed rat pups more calcium

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Re: Confused snake or confused owner?

Hey guys thanks for the valuable information, but why the hostility from nearly all of you? Were you always experts in handling snakes, just born knowing what to do? I came here for help not harasment. I appreciate the tips and remember my post said my this is my first snake. The hostility I can do with out. Maybe your snakes are like your children, my snake is a snake and will always be a snake.

I appreaciate you taking the time to share your knowlege with me Merlin. Yes, my tank is a bit on the cold side im still trying to work out the heat loss through the glass. Hes in a glass tank and its winter. He's active and moves between the warm side and the cold side. If were too cold wouldnt he just stay in the warm side? The humidity gets to 100 % after it rain on a sunny day and I open the window for a bit of fresh air. I do not let it stay that way for long. Maybe a few hours at most. Its just nature, its wet down here in texas. Thanks for your concern. If you have any other suggestions do let me know. Im still learning and would rather learn from other peoples mistakes not my own.

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Re: Confused snake or confused owner?

What are you using for heat? If you are using a bulb go up to the next wattage.
It is normal for the snake to move back and forth between hot and cool. Its called thermoregulation and it is how they control their body temperature.

Nobody is intending to be hostile to you. Thats not the way things work here and I am sorry if you took it that way. Its just that many of us have seen far too many injuries as the results of people feeding live food. We are passionate about what we do and often it gets pretty thin when someone asks a question and then grumbles because the answer was not what they wanted to hear.
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Nobody is born knowing about reptiles. In my case at least it took many years of study, learning, keeping, and talking to more advanced keepers and breeders. And yes there were many mistakes along the way. When I started out with herps there were no websites such as this one. What little info available was often horrendously wrong and unfortunately our charges suffered for it. We just had to stumble our way thru it and learn as we went.
Thats why we try to help and share the knowledge we have accumulated.
New keepers today have it much easier!
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 I helped move the meter!   12-18-2007, 11:50 PM
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Re: Confused snake or confused owner?

Please don't take it that we were being hostile. ALL of us have made mistakes over the years, and as Merlin stated us "old timers" were bombarded with incorrect info for the longest time. Most of the members posting in this thread were just trying to emphasize the importance of preventing injury to your snake with the benefits of feeding f/t. Sorry if you took things that way.
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Re: Confused snake or confused owner?

like I said if you like feeding live hun you can just make sure its rat pups and give him a few they are very dence and cant do harm to the snake I hope you didnt take he as hostile I have a big girl and she isabout 3065 g and if she wont feed f/t then I give her 4 or 5 rat pups I dont want her to get hurt so I give her whimpy prey and still get to see her kill ... F/T is a prefference there really isnt anything wrong just like I said so you have no chance of harm feed little and you get the best of both worlds for your snake safe and amusment

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Re: Confused snake or confused owner?

I will admit I did get hostile. I have a problem when someone wants to feed live for entertainment purposes (which is what you stated).

We on this site take the well being of animals VERY seriously. We may get snippy at you, but its for the sole purpose of making sure an animal is getting proper care.
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Re: Confused snake or confused owner?

Dont go off of the frozen. When I first purchased corona I tried the frozen pinky's, but the store had already began feeding her live mice. Ever since then she will not eat anything frozen or prekilled. (of course this was before she went on her fast)

its been over a month since she has eaten, but she is still growing and displaying her typical behavior. Still active @ night and sleeps during the day. still drinking her water as well. Just waiting for her to feed. im tired of wasting $$$ on rats.

 


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