Maybe you don't understand. Just people you've "seen it done" doesn't mean it's okay. Green Anoles can carry a number of different parasites that green tree frogs are not immune to, and vice versa. It is never a good idea to mix different species of reptile, no matter how close their needs seem, they are never close enough.

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My personal opinion, is it's not the keepers who decide whats okay for the animals, it's the animals, Like I said, both parties were happy when I saw it done, and the tank was about 3+ years established when I first saw it. Parasites are tough though, and something anyone who ever mixes species has to watch out for.

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You can have any opinion you want, but what you're saying isn't true. If you force animals to live together, then it is the keeper who decides. And by putting anoles and GTF together, you are forcing something that shouldn't be forced.

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it will totally stress the inhabitants out. You would need an enclosure the size of a room to make sure they were happy together. And by happy, i mean TOLERATE.

You have a 29 gallon tank.

Just because you have seen it done doesn't mean its right. Stress will take a toll on your animals. Instead of that frog living 6 years, he may only live 3. What if an anole decides to take a bite of your frog? Reptiles and amphibians are not social creatures. In nature they can get away, in a 29 gallon tank, there is no where to go.

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I don't think I can really reply to this statement and keep with the HCN friendly attitude....

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Thank you Schlegelbagel, reptile's are non social, i understand that, and there are many parasites that are either impossible to treat, or are beneficial to the animals, I'm not sure a 29 would be able to do it. When I saw it done, the animals seemed about as okay with living with other animals, as an anole is living with another anole, however it was a much larger tank. (still not really sure what size, but it was roughly the length and width of a 40 breeder, but must of been taller, i looked at a picture a 40 breeder, and it didnt look near as tall as I remember, who knows.) so, those animals seemed to think it was okay. And No, i won't end up mixing anoles and tree frogs, because I thought about it, and I don't really want to buy a 20 high that sits in my backroom just incase it doesent seem to work out, but, it is possible, and animals do decide whats okay to live with them, the keeper has to be smart enough to keep an eye out for it.

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Well since you asked ok, I will give you my opinion... However I know for that you will just disregard it like you do just about every other piece of advice people on this forum have given you. I happen to know for a fact that I am not the only one that feels this way about you as well!

But, because I respect this forum I won't express my true feelings to their fullest extent. That is not how things work here at HCN, we try very hard not to be like all the other forums out there that just seem to love to bash people, even when some make this very difficult.
This being an example of the attitude that we try not to take here.

This right there shows that the animals were stressed in this environment! Not to mention, what is the point of having an animal in an enclosure that its not going to use all of? If it is too stressed to go into a basking area then it suffers... If it is too stressed to get to the ground, it can't hunt food as well... And in the long run this lifestyle would greatly shorten the animal's lifespan. Not to mention the fact that they have different requirements in temp, and humidity. Anoles needing 80-90F and 60-70% humidity, GTF need 72-80F and 50% humidity.

I think this comment from you more so than any other, caused me to lose complete respect for your ability to competently provide a stable environment for animals. You are creating a false environment for these animals, the animal has no choice in it but to die or kill... YOU have a responsibility as a pet owner to make those choices in the BEST INTEREST OF THE ANIMAL, not for yourself.... But this state of mind is one you have shown over and over in trying to make animals fit your lifestyle rather than the other way around.

But hey, that's only MY OPINION.

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How can an animal "decide what's OK" if it's forced to live in a limited space without hope of escape?
It is up to the keeper to decide what size tank is OK, what temperature and humidity are OK and what food items are OK. It is also the responsibility of the keeper to protect their animals against disease and stress.
If you are not "OK" with these responsibilities, it would be better to just stick with the beautiful silk plants in a cool looking terrarium.

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How did you know they were OK? Did you ask them? Really, I bet they were just getting by, not exactly OK.

I'm glad we swayed you against mixing species. Please stop getting so combative with our members. All we want is the best care for your animals. If you come up with an idea, and we think its no good, please be receptive to that. You don't seem to like being wrong. No one really likes to be wrong in the end, allow yourself to be wrong for the animal's sake.

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Ok I am going to wade in on this.
First everybody take a deep breath and RELAX!!
We are NOT going to allow this to escalate into a FIRESTORM!!

I have seen multiple species environments that worked.
HOWEVER!
These were not cases of a hodgepodge set up of a small enclosure with a handful of pet shop animals recklessly tossed in there without regard to their environmental, dietary, and territorial needs.
These were VERY ADVANCED AND EXPERIENCED keepers who had an intimate degree of knowledge of and experience with the animals that they were keeping and they kept them in large zoo style enclosures that had been extremely well thought out in every detail. All the animals had been previously quarantined and been given prophylactic veterinary treatment to reduce or eliminate the possibilty of transferable disease or parasites.
Multiple species enclosure are possible but it takes an extraordinary level of knowlege and skill to successfully pull it off.
Its not something for a novice keeper to attempt.

Just because someone else has done something and gotten away with it, for a while, doesn't meant that it was a good idea in the first place!
I have seen a lot of, "well, someone else did it" situations, that caused the death of the animals.

As an extreme example,.... I could close my eyes and walk out across a busy street.
If I made it without getting hit by a vehicle does that mean that it was a good idea that should be recommended to others?
I think not!

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